Beth Ditto | Morbidly Obese
After a shocking amount of backlash against my post concerning Beth Ditto and her weight, I decided to do a little research. Many of you seemed to think that Ditto was of an average, healthy weight. You thought the media had simply transformed our ideas of what people should weigh. I’ll admit, when I wrote that post, I didn’t know exactly what Beth Ditto weighed, or exactly what weight was considered obese. I looked around a bit, and Wikipedia to the rescue! According to them:
“In the clinical setting, obesity is typically evaluated by measuring BMI (body mass index) . . .”
“BMI, or Body Mass Index, is a simple and widely used method for estimating body fat. In epidemiology BMI alone is used as an indicator of prevalence and incidence.”
“BMI = kg / m2“
“The current definitions commonly in use establish the following values, agreed in 1997 and published in 2000:
- A BMI less than 18.5 is underweight
- A BMI of 18.5 – 24.9 is normal weight
- A BMI of 25.0 – 29.9 is overweight
- A BMI of 30.0 – 39.9 is obese
- A BMI of 40.0 or higher is severely (or morbidly) obese
- A BMI of 35.0 or higher in the presence of at least one other significant comorbidity is also classified by some bodies as morbid obesity.
Now, for some math. Using my own height and weight here’s an example of how to calculate BMI.
My height = 5′7″ = 67″
My weight = 140lbs
Converted to meters and kilograms:
My height = (67 x 0.02540) = 1.718m
My weight = (140 x 0.45359237) = 63.5029318kgs
BMI = 63.5029318 / 1.7182
=63.5029318 / 2.951524
=21.51530254
So, my BMI is about 21.5, and according to Wikipedia, that’s perfectly healthy. Now, for Ditto.
Beth Ditto’s Height and Weight
Height = 5′2″ = 62″
Weight = 220lbs
Converted
Height = 1.5748m
Weight = 99.7903214
BMI = 99.7903214 / 1.57482
BMI = 99.7903214 / 2.47999504
BMI = 40.2381133
Uh oh, looks like that’s considered severely overweight, or morbidly obese. That’s not my opinion, that’s a fact. Beth Ditto is damn far from a healthy weight. Here are some BMI’S of the “sexiest women alive”:
Scarlett Johansson – 18.0
Kiera Knightly – 17.2
Angelina Jolie – 18.8
Beyonce Knowles – 24.0
Jessica Alba - 20.2
Halle Berry – 19.3
Jennifer Aniston – 18.3
Eva Longoria – 19.8
Charleze Theron -19.6
What does that mean? Well first, that Kiera should probably gain a few pounds, and secondly, that none of them are even close to 15-point margin Ditto is. Most of them are well with a healthy weight! Now, if Ditto were content to simply eat herself to death without harming anyone else, that would be fine. But she’s not; she’s actively glorifying her gluttony. Believe it or not, some kids actually look up to her as a role mode; to them, she’s saying “it’s okay to be grossly overweight. I am, and I’m doing just fine”. That is why I have a problem with her. You wouldn’t put a naked anorexic on a magazine cover, right? That would be sending the wrong message to the youth. So why should it be okay to put a fat girl on there?
Peabody said,
May 31, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Well I wouldn’t kick her out of bed …. because it would be physically impossible.
Chubby said,
May 31, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Again, grow up. There are naked anorexic chicks on the covers of ALL magazines ALL the time. You’re supposed to listen to really good music with your ears, not your eyes anyway.
Zameer said,
May 31, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Well, it’s okay music, true that, but when you go nude for NME, you’re not about your music anymore, you’re about you’re popularity. It’s obvious she does her ” fat is cool ” act just to gain acceptance. I mean, she doesn’t have to embrace herself for us to like her, her voice is all we need.
Peabody said,
May 31, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Chubby this isn’t about music at all. You shouldn’t be okay with anorexic chicks on covers all the time glorifying thin and you shouldn’t be okay with fat people on covers glorifying gluttony.
On the other hand I don’t think Kyle is completely justified in that accusation. From what’s on the cover I don’t think she’s actively telling people to be fat like her. It looks more like a “it’s not a crime” sort of thing. If she’s morbidly obese and knows she could die early because of it and doesn’t care, that’s fine by me. It’s not our place to tell her to change.
Matt said,
May 31, 2007 at 8:29 pm
well done you proved that she’s fat. cos we all weren’t sure.
Rinjo Njori said,
May 31, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Fat Chicks Rock! no seriously– You either like them large or you don’t.I think she is a pig who can sing. Shell be irrellevant in two years. Lily Allen is pleasantly plump, but a fucking cashew. Then there is cashw number two, Lady Sovereign— nuff said. Allese chicks are just nuts fat, medium, or runty. Just like every other chick or guy.
Skinny said,
May 31, 2007 at 10:20 pm
After reading the original post, I noticed there weren’t any comments made about Ditto being of an “average, healthy weight” like you assumed. And the media has “transformed our ideas of what people should weigh.” To think otherwise is truly naive. It seemed like you were just upset they didn’t have the standard hot naked chick on the cover instead. But since you explained you were actually just concerned she was “glorifying gluttony” to the kids, then let me try to put you at ease. While NME has their one magazine cover of a woman who isn’t 100lbs, 99.9% of Hollywood, advertisement, media, etc, etc is doing the exact opposite. So rest assured, even though Ditto is saying “It’s okay to not have a figure like Jessica Alba,” the rest of the world is screaming “You’re disgusting and repulsive!!!” Which is exactly what you did with Ditto. And as a result, you unintentionally implied anyone similar is also “disgusting” and “repulsive.” Calling people disgusting and repulsive is not the best way to express your concerns for their body mass index and health. In other words, try to be more positive and encouraging and less negative and detrimental.
So in conclusion… cut the crap and just admit you came off as an asshole with that first entry and then validated it when you tried to justify insults with arithmetic. (But if by chance you were sincere, then consider this paragraph void and continue referring to the first.)
Just keep in mind that all kinds of people enjoy your site and that you’re not thesupercial.com.
Peabody – I don’t think Chubby was saying was she okay with anorexic chicks in magazines, just that it does, in fact, exist. She was probably responding this statement – “You wouldn’t put a naked anorexic on a magazine cover, right?” And I also agree with your thoughts on Ditto going for an “it’s not a crime” attitude.
Liz
Loanshub said,
June 1, 2007 at 5:27 am
Next to impossible if tried literally. So whats the use of all this statistics.
CD said,
June 1, 2007 at 10:40 am
Here I thought that by removing your previous post you had been chastened, in however a cowardly manner manifested. Goes to show what happens when you give people the benefit of the doubt.
The issue that comes to my mind when the “OMG, Beth Ditto is teh fat, grooossss!” thing comes up is how fat, ugly men in entertainment aren’t expected to apologize for their existence the way that overweight women are. Why is that, you think? Because no matter how hard a woman fights against it, she’s often still valued primarily on her appearance.
The NME picture seems like Ditto’s attempt to reclaim her body (much in the same way groups have attempted to reclaim terms like “queer” or what have you). If the media is going to talk about her weight before her music (which is how you framed your redacted post, btw) why *not*—if you’re the outspoken sort that Ditto seems to be—put it right smack on the cover, saying “You wanna talk about my fatness? Here it is, motherfuckers!” Why not challenge how women—women of all sizes and shapes—are presented in the media by turning the typical cheesy nude shot on its head? It’s kind of punk rock, if you think about it.
To paraphrase Roger Ebert: Beth Ditto can lose weight is she wants, but Kyle is stuck being a short, dumb asshole for life.
Frankie said,
June 1, 2007 at 12:40 pm
Dude, you run a music blog. No one wants to hear your misguided and prejudiced opinions about someone who’s a fuck of a lot more talented than you.
Christy said,
June 1, 2007 at 3:08 pm
I was curious. So I calculated.
I am 5′3″ and I weigh 119 lbs.
My BMI = 21.1
**self high five**
I’m normal weight. =o)
You know, I don’t think this post was necessary.
And yes, I am sure it is hurtful to the people who are indeed overweight.
Perhaps we can all get together and run.
Cheers!
Christy said,
June 1, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Oh and another thing.
For the people who are freaking harassing you..
Why don’t they throw some stones at Beth for her misguided and prejudiced remarks about gay men.
“Beth Ditto has said that gay men who work on the fashion industry are totally to blame for the pressure on women to be thin.
Ditto, lead singer of The Gossip, said that Kate Moss was totally not to blame and is very understanding of what it is like to be a bigger girl.
“If there’s anyone to blame for size zero, it’s not women. Blame gay men who work in the fashion industry and want these women as dolls,” Ditto told NME.”
Liz said,
June 1, 2007 at 4:00 pm
I think this is a pretty decent thread. We’re all just sharing our responses, opinions, and arguments. No harassment yet.
“Why don’t they throw some stones at Beth for her misguided and prejudiced remarks about gay men.”
It’s best to debate one issue at a time.
Any recommendations (other than Listen Up)?
nathan said,
June 1, 2007 at 5:20 pm
at least people are discussing this, which can’t be harmful whatsoever. i see no harm in any of these posts, if said sitting around the pub with a pint in hand, nothing would be thought of it, but the fact it was “published” makes it somewhat of an issue.
i think everyone has an opinion on the situation, none of which are wrong. i don’t think voicing an opinion is any reason to “stop reading”, just a reason to stop and think.
Peabody said,
June 1, 2007 at 5:51 pm
I agree that the majority of users here are discussing it in an intelligent way and that’s constructive.
“No one wants to hear your misguided and prejudiced opinions about someone who’s a fuck of a lot more talented than you” as Frankie says on the other hand is not constructive. He’s allowed to voice his opinions no matter how talented the subject is in comparison to him. Critiquing isn’t one way.
Chris said,
June 1, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Hahahah Ditto is a cunt for what she said about gay men. Blaming any certain group for unrealistic beauty standards is idiotic… good job, you cow!
Frankie said,
June 4, 2007 at 2:12 pm
@Peabody: I realise that what I said before wasn’t what would generally be considered ‘constructive’, but in a case like this, where I’m quite simply disgusted by the poster’s ridiculous, baseless, not to mention completely irrelevant comments, I decided simply voicing my own opinions in the simplest way possible would be a better idea than using lots of pretentious words to illustrate a point and ultimately going nowhere. ‘Constructive criticism’ is overrated, right?
To say what perhaps I should have said to begin with, I don’t think the owner of this site (Kyle?) has any right whatsoever to comment on something that he has no insight into whatsoever; that is, what Beth Ditto’s motives regarding her appearance on the cover of NME may or may not have been. I think it’s absolutely ludicrous, and somewhat sensationalistic, to say that she intended to tell others (’some kids’, as you seem to be terming the band’s entire fanbase) that “it’s okay to be grossly overweight” and that she is “actively glorifying gluttony”.
Maya said,
June 4, 2007 at 7:29 pm
You wrote: “You wouldn’t put a naked anorexic on a magazine cover, right?”
Actually, that *is* what the fashion industry does, quite often — not exactly naked, but CERTAINLY anorexic. Clothes look better on (human) clothes hangers.
I posted some pictures of anorexic fashion models on my blog — check them out:
http://www.mayalibre.com/archives/2006/11/so_you_think_fa.php
I’m not saying Beth Ditto is healthy, I don’t think she is. But she *is* correct when she suggests there’s a problem with our cultural views of women’s beauty.
Mia said,
June 16, 2007 at 10:34 am
Maya most of those are photoshopped:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/people/models.asp
I agree completely with the post. I’m fed up of people saying “This is an acceptable size” and holding up someone like Fern Britten. The sad fact is that today 50% of our society is overweight and they’r elooking for reassurance. There shouldn’t be any. It’s not healthy to be that size and they will suffer serious health problems.
andrew tait said,
July 4, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Beth Ditto….I would..IF I could find the correct hole…i wouldn’t want to push it in the old brown plug hole instead of the old sqeeze box…but honestly..if she said she would swallow the old cock snot..then certainly i would…happy reading!
Charlie said,
July 9, 2007 at 11:30 pm
The stats you listed for BMI are on the VERY low end of healthy and that’s kind of scary. There are a lot of people who aren’t ever going to be small enough to be acceptable in your world. I think it’s more realistic for people to add an hour’s worth of physical activity into their daily lives and be mindful of the foods they eat. That is much more realistic than thinking people are going to just strave themselves down to a BMI of 18.
Redveg said,
July 20, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Human difference and variability are universal, and this includes weight/body size. What should be aimed at is a healthy diet and lifestyle (exercise, etc.). If you are eating healthily and exercising, then I cannot see why you are not as healthy as you can possibly be, regardless of weight. I admire Beth Ditto’s courage in being not only ‘out’ as a lesbian, but out as a fat woman, and a fat young woman at that – there is so much more pressure on women in their twenties, as she is, to be ’slim, sexy and fertile’, whereas when a woman is postmenopausal, she is ‘invisible’ and an ‘ugly old boot’ so it is apparently OK for her to be fat. (Not just an old witch, but a fat old witch) I do not know if she is unhealthy, or if her size denotes morbidity – this is dependent on her diet and lifestyle, NOT her size, which I do not know.
A lot of obesity problems in those who are not predisposed to be large spring from agribusiness and the fast-food multinationals, so I do not condemn or pass judgement on people addicted to MacDonalds or Krispy Kreem doughnuts. It’s not their fault if they have a BMI hovering around 40. I do think that extreme obesity is more often than not caused by the issues mentioned above than by personal metabolism. However, although doubtless very rare, a BMI of over 40 can exist in an individual with a healthy diet and lifestyle, simply because that is the way they are.
Personally being both old and fat (aged 59 with a BMI of 32), I am pissed off to the back teeth with being told that my age and/or weight/size are not acceptable. My diet is both wholefood and vegan and I regularly walk over 12 miles per week (mostly at weekends when I walk in the countryside). If I were not at work I would do a lot more walking than I do now and as a result of this, I might or might not lose weight. I would probably become hungrier and take in more calories – my body telling me that it needs more ”fuel’ to power increased activity. This would leave me just as…..fat…..as before.
Oh, and I have nothing but contempt for the likes of Andrew Tait. I’m wondering if Mr. Tait might be double-jointed then he could stuff his ’snotty’ phallus into his own anal orifice! What a sexist creep, and an idiot to boot! Beth Ditto is an out LESBIAN and could not give a flying fart for his poxy withered little appendage! If the world were full of Andrew Taits I would fundamentally question my own heterosexuality. Fortunately I can say that he is not fit to lick my man’s boots.
Redveg
Beth FATTO said,
August 29, 2007 at 2:39 pm
FATTEST.UGLIEST.OVERCONFIDENT.TROLLOP.EVER.
There, I said it. 90% of people would think it.
She offends my eyes…to be honesti’d like her more if she covered up and was more reserved.
It’s like someone with spots deliberately squeezing them all over the audience. Or someone with a BO problem rubbing their armpit in your face.
It’s gross and NOT WITH A 10 FOOT BARGE POLE.
To be honest, I dont mind overweight people. Most of my friends are ‘overweight’. WHAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF, is when people who are, how might we say, not very pleasing on the eye…try to make out that theyre good to watch/have their fat jiggle etc. Not everyone agrees and some people actually get offended or feel sick.
I think people like Beth have an image complex, in the sense that they think its ok to look any way, to be as sweaty as you like, to smell, to be repugnant to most of the opposite sex.
Why should that be ok?
It’s a shame that shes probably alienating many more people to not ‘being a fan’ as the gossip’s music is cool, but those in question would not attend a gig for fear of seeing the above….I know I wouldnt.
Beth, put ome clothes on and stop trying to blame portions of society for an enitre genders problem. You are the problem for many others.
Mind you on the plus side, think of all the anorexics shes going to cure by parading her fat ass about on television.
She could do some good yet.
ShamelessisIgnorant said,
October 4, 2007 at 5:06 am
You base your “facts” on the BMI? WTF? I guess you don’t keep up with your reading. BMI is an outdated and essentially flawed tool. BMI doesn’t take into account genetics, muscle mass, bone structure and daily activities and lifestyle. You know that Brad Pitt is fat? According to your trusty BMI he is. Obviously this flawed measurement failed to note that Pitt has a much higher ratio of muscle than fat and though muscle is heavy, it takes up fewer space than fat.
Anyway, get your science straight there angry boy. Obesity is not as black and white as you think it is. There is a lot of info out there on the complexities of body composition and even this week the latest research suggests that not all all excess body fat is created equal and not all of it is as bad as previously thought. Baby fat for example is blood rich fat (brown fat) that’s one of the best fats kids can have (it keeps them warm, helps them grow). Some adults preserve some of this good fat while many lose it after childhood.
Anyway…
I wouldn’t want to be Ditto’s size but I have no reason to criticize her size either. It’s her life, her body.
Body and fat fascism is for the uncouth and the retarded.
LW said,
November 7, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Ah BMI is pants; I’ve got a BMI of 25.8 which puts me in at overweight but I got a waist size of 29 inches (I’m generally a size 10 UK)…. so does that make me fat, scientifically?
I think she’s overweight in an unhealthy sense; you shouldn’t maintain weight by stuffing yourelf with ice cream and fried chicken like beth claims she does; science suggests that’s the best way to give yourself a coronary. That said, it’s a rarity to find someone who isn’t put down by all the media that reckons we should all be twiglets… I don’t like the way obesity is talked about in such a way that it’s made out to be a personality flaw; it brings people down, and who has the right to point out somebody elses flaws? If you call me fat, I call you judgemental and narrow minded… hurts all the same… Conversely, obesity isn’t something to aspire to…
What the hell’s wrong with exercising, eating right and being the size nature intended you to be?
Carrie said,
November 15, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Maybe Ditto considers her weight a radical move to jog us of our thin-obsessive culture? Maybe it takes really strong measures to combat the war on women’s bodies that currently dominates our dialogue on this topic.
joe said,
April 22, 2008 at 10:11 pm
yea you are supposed to listen to music with your ears and not your eyes but the thing is the music is shit. I could care less if she could not stand up. She sings for shit live.
liza said,
April 23, 2008 at 1:06 am
here’s the thing, i weigh just as much as her, and i am shorter than her but i look like i weigh one sixty and i have lots of muscle mass. so it just depends on how you carry it. unfortunately for miss ditto, she doesn’t carry it that great
k'lee said,
April 23, 2008 at 11:51 pm
who cares about beth ditto’s weight? haven’t you anything better to write about? global warming, politics, something important?
i can not honestly believe you would write an article like this.
Jamie said,
April 25, 2008 at 11:43 pm
I mean shit it’s okay to be 10-15 pounds overweight, which alot of us are, but this is ludicrous. This is promoting diabetes and heart disease to young kids who idolize this woman. She will probably drop dead of a heart attack. Being grossly thin is disgusting too. What happened to the 1950’s-attitude of being a size 8 or 10 and normal… not skeletal or gigantic? I’m lost for words with all of this.
And on a different note, the band isn’t that talented. Actually nothing on MTV is. Bands like Bad Religion and Nofx who have been making music for 25 years are way better then this bullshit music out nowadays. The end.
kally said,
May 22, 2008 at 12:38 am
but where are those bmi’s from. i am sorry there is no way that scarlet jo is 18.0 if that is less than angelina… angelina is after keira, but still super thin.
Milina said,
May 27, 2008 at 1:26 pm
granted that beth ditto is a performer and places herself in a position that is public, she must be aware of what messages she sends. her messages are her messages as yours are your own. this is why we have wars; class separation; republicans; conservatives; democrats; liberals; starvation; abuse; opression; racism etc… because there seems to be some need to eliminate that which does not fit into our own lifestyle or moral code/ethics. honestly, it seems horribly wasteful to post on here but i really feel the need to make a suggestion…employ your own politics, do not promote that which you do not like. i was doing a search for beth ditto for other reasons and came to your site, which lead me to be more curious about her and probably now that i have read everything listed above, i will end up liking her. so yeah, if you don’t like it, dont’ argue about it, don’t look at it and don’t promote it.
ali said,
May 27, 2008 at 1:31 pm
you know, if you are going to get mad over someone who is obese or whatever it is you want to say becuase you think she’s not a good role model then why not get just as mad at someone like kiera knightly – you mentioned (she should gain a few pounds) instead of going on a rant of how bad a role model kiera knightly is in the same breath. so you are bias and it’s out, you don’t like fat people. move on.
maybe you should start with the hundreds of actors and actresses who are killing themselves through addictions (drugs,alcohol etc), or starvation too.
plushusnati said,
June 26, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Read the Obesity Myth or at least the first half. Then come back and tell me that it’s all about BMI. My dear friend is a skinny model who never works out and eats like a pig. I have a BMI of 37 and I work out regularly and eat an abundant but healthy diet (no white sugar, no pork, no dairy, 50% raw food). My friend has a dozen health problems that are usually attributed to fatties. I on the other hand am running 2 miles and biking 40 on a whim…my doctor says I am overweight but quite healthy.
your obsession with weight is shameful and misguided and much more damaging to the impressionable public than Beth’s balls out unapologetic unabashed self love. I think the last time a society became rampantly overweight we were blessed with Socrates and Plato…oh yeah…I can see how your fear of morbid obesity is justified…it could really ruin a society…
Fat Pride said,
August 8, 2008 at 6:16 pm
First off, your an asshole. That BMI index is antiquated first computed in the 1830’s. The Flemish mathematician that developed the BMI wasn’t a physician. According to empirical research women have become developed larger bone and muscle structures in 200 years as is natural in evolution. Physician’s didn’t start using the BMI until the 1970’s after the Twiggy epidemic. Not only that the mathematician that invented this equation Quatelet tested it on Western European soldiers, not women.
Don’t you find it disturbing that you are basing your opinion on a system that is almost 200 years old and has little basis in the research of human health? If not, your a moron. Women are round, we are curvy. Some of us are lanky and tall, it doesn’t make one more desirable than the other and using celebrities who struggle with their weight for their work is irresponsible too. They have trainers, access and money for organic and high-end supplements to help detox their systems and probably personal chefs.
To talk shit about Beth Ditto is an arrogant and fucked up thing to do. Why do you care if fat women find some solace and self-esteem in an icon? Women starve themselves to look like Angelina Jolie and Keira Knightly-and Knightly has said herself she’d rather look like ditto than an aneroxic.
I suggest you associate yourself with some feminist texts and more research. You would rather have female icons that are dying-literally dying to be thin to be considered beautiful when we all know beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you don’t like fat chicks fine, but don’t piss on everybody else because your a close-minded, mean spirited fuck-up.
There’s nothing wrong with having a variety of role models for women. I love Beth Ditto ! I am proud of her and I think she’s sexy and brave as all hell. Despite people like your dumb ass who give her shit for being herself.
Next time before you talk shit, get some info.
kelly said,
August 14, 2008 at 10:06 am
just a side comment: regardless of size, i don’t find it very classy for ANYONE to wear only bra and underwear while putting on a concert.
Jess said,
October 27, 2008 at 3:37 pm
i believe that beth’s image is her way of rebelling against our patriarchal society’s stereotypical, one-dimensional and unrealistic idea of what women should be like. i think it’s brilliant she’s got so many people reacting, it’s what she wants. chances are, if you’re offended by her appearance, you’re the kind of person she’s trying to reach. she wants women to think differently about themselves, and not feel pressured to be anything other than what is natural to them. perfect bodies come in every shape and size and she is wonderful. ever looked up her column in the guardian? amazing woman.
Frankie said,
November 1, 2008 at 11:53 am
I have mixed feelings about Beth Ditto. On one hand, it does make me happy to see someone fat wearing (usually) fun clothes, and being confident enough to show her body instead of going for the classic idea of draping everything in ’slimming’ black. On the other hand, no matter how much fat activists will try and tell you otherwise, being obese isn’t healthy, it’s dangerous and increases the risk of an early death.
I suppose it can be justified in a way, because given the enormous amount of scantily clad skinny women we are exposed to on magazine covers (most of whom look completely bloody arsey and miserable anyway), it instinctively makes me laugh when I see a massively obese singer bouncing about in her knickers, not appearing to give too much of a shit. I don’t think she’s pretending it is healthy, maybe she’s just showing us that she feels confident enough in her own skin to have fun onstage. I don’t think that just because Beth Ditto gets her kit off and has a belly, a generation of teenagers are going to start force feeding themselves to try and become morbidly obese like their role-model. In general, I think her enviable traits would be her talent, fashion and general self-confidence, which can be no bad thing. I think I’ve convinced myself it’s ok now.
liam said,
February 15, 2009 at 6:09 am
i know she is severely overweight but my god av u seen dat sexy mound of flab she calls a belly. i so wanna lick her gut tits n thighs. she is my dream date n that wobble of fat is makin me hard. imagine her belly bounce as she rides….
i love beth fatto ditto
buhritknee said,
March 9, 2009 at 2:01 am
I think she is a brave and beautiful individual. I know that many say that she’s doing this for publicity, but I don’t think so. If all these celebrities can flaunt themselves on magazine covers, photots, etc., then what should stop Ms. Ditto from doing the same? Even if this is for publicity, she is doing a great job because I’m hearing about this everywhere. And that would make her beautiful, talented, and intelligent.
Katia said,
March 18, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Beth Ditto is disgusting in my opinion.
And to those who claim “anorexic” chicks are all over magazines, please remove your obviously skewed heads from your own asses and realise that not everyone who is thin is anorexic. Youre as uneducated and stupid as those who think all overweight people just sit and eat all day.
cillianfinnerty said,
March 20, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Maybe everyone should recognise that
1. There’s always going to be someone with different views to you.
2. You’re never going to convince everyone to your opinion.
There. That makes every debate pointless.
Thank you.
lindsey said,
March 30, 2009 at 10:12 pm
fuck all you people. beth ditto is the SHIT. she has more talent in her pinky toe than the majority of people out there making millions calling themselves ‘artists.’ she’s real. she doesn’t want your narrow minded bullshit. there is no fucking REASON it would be wrong to send a message to young girls to LOVE YOURSELF & don’t compare yourself to unrealistic standards & airbrushed photos to measure your worth. she’s not preaching to kids to abuse themselves. there are a countless number of diseases, medications & health problems not to mention genetics that can cause a person to be overweight, NOT simply what you shove in your mouth. what are you supposed to say to those kids? the way you’re put together, through NO fault of your own, makes you WRONG? that is so fucked up.
& by the way, the body mass index was in NO WAY meant to be used on a global basis, it was created in the NINETEENTH century by ONE scientist meant for ONE study & its application to the entire world is inaccurate & has taken it out of context. yeah, people also used to die at an average age of 37 back then, what the hell does that have to do with people as we are today.
skinny attitude said,
April 7, 2009 at 11:33 am
Why does fat people always feel the need to justify their weight by harassing skinny people? Oh my god, their bullshit and personal attacks never ends! And BMI does give a fair estimate of your health, unless you are a very trained athlete.
Beth Ditto is seriously overweight, there is no denying it. She is morbidly obese, and will probably not get very old.
And because of that, I think the message she is sending to other girls is horribly wrong. At her weight you will get health problems.
I’m not saying fat people are ugly. If that is what you hear, it is in your mind and not mine. But, they are unhealthy.
This Woman will die young, and her last years alive will most likely not be very good. And trying to convince others and yourself is just a lie.
PS : Most celebrities that people sometimes refer to as anorexic have an BMI of about 18-20 wich is neither unhealthy or an impossible
lindsey said,
April 9, 2009 at 4:39 pm
wah, wah, wah.
well, OH alright boney-ass, i had no idea that to have a valid opinion in your underdeveloped point of view, you would FIRST have to know that i’m neither overweight or morbidly obese… even though YOU’RE the one who cant even goddamn SPELL! how stupid of me! because otherwise i’d just be the fat girl harrassing the skinny girl, because in retrospect, THAT is how the world has always worked, right?
according to the BMI values up top, im 24.9; do i still have a right to debate even though im right on the edge??? probably not, you’d rather support my judgment based on whether or not i could play you a song with nothing but a couple mallets & my ribcage.
either way, fuck you very much.
let beth ditto do what she wants with the time she has here, she’s actively seeking out her dreams & out there living her life on a scale many of us will likely never experience. so let her have it, rather than try to act like she doesn’t deserve it because she cant fit into a size 5. & if any of you have seen her dance at any of her shows, you know that girl’s physically active; her body issues are clearly not a matter of sloth.
fin said,
April 25, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Following one of your links: http://www.thatsfit.com/2009/04/09/bmi-how-accurate-is-it
Really disproves your whole argument, especially if you are comparing her to woman who are at a “healthy” weight.
Now if anyone could figure our Ms. Ditto DXA then one could make a more accurate assumption of she is morbidly obese or not.
Nightrunner378 said,
May 12, 2009 at 3:02 am
Ditto is 220 pounds. “MORBIDLY” obese? If she was 420 pounds, that would be morbidly obese. Get a grip.
martini said,
May 16, 2009 at 1:46 am
Hm…I have to agree with what some of the past posters have said: i wouldnt consider he morbidly obese unless she was about a hundred pounds heavier. today’s national standards of overweight are completely different than that of the outdated BMI standard. if we’re going for the more scientific approach.
if we’re going on a personal approach…w/e leave her alone. we often times pressure females in the public eye on weather they are much too thin (keira knightley) or weather they are too fat (even kate winslet has been told she is and she obviously isnt)
people’s bodies are their own personal matter and if someone doesnt like it well thats too bad because for every one person who dislikes it there is one who does.
sit back shut up and listen to her music other wise turn it off and get it out of your damned minds.
Imms said,
May 20, 2009 at 4:47 pm
She’s not “Morbidly Obese.”
Just because your ideal chick is a toothpick doesn’t mean Ditto is a whale.
Doctors everywhere say that the BMI is an estimation, heck, I have a friend who is taller but slimmer than me and she’s apparently overweight. It’s pure unfiltered bullshit.
And even if it wasn’t Beth doesn’t look revolting, she’s just happy with who she is! A load of male comedians/singers are overweight but apparently this only matters if your a chick.
What a load.
Oh, and by the way, not ONE of the women you compared with Beth are normal girls, they’re all on constant diets, you walk down the street and tell me how many Jennifer Anistons you see.
Ditto’s message is be yourself. Not once has she said: BE FAT LIKE ME!
She’s a good singer and a real punk, she does what she wants and is happy in her own skin, so what if she’s overweight? You, sir, are just an example of society disrespecting people just because of how they look. News flash, she doesn’t have to be “One of the sexiest women alive” (you put it so beautifully) to be a great singer.
Kathinka said,
May 24, 2009 at 1:27 pm
1. she is sexy
2. she is a very well singer
3. who reconized this “woman” you discribe???
4. It is always the same: these who have no hobby,friends and self confident have to say anything bad about other people!I think you don`t have any own problms. What is wrong about you?Beth has so much i think you would have,too. If you don`t want to see her,look to another thing!
Very poor show,darling!
Xtiana said,
June 7, 2009 at 12:19 am
The way I look at this is well, Is can she walk to the store, can she function properly without anyone’s help, does she suffer from any illness relating from her weight? If no then she is alright, she doesn’t have to be near size 0 to grace a magazine cover if she can function properly then she is healthy. She’s good at what she does the and she’s comfortable in her own skin. Give the woman a break she doesn’t care about you and your obese comments why are you making it such a big deal?
Kiersten said,
June 11, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I would just like to say that the BMI’s you have up are only for America. The BMI’s, for the rest of the world, that are considered healthy and underweight vary depending on the country’s average. For Asia a healthy BMI is considerably lower because their population has thinner people. It also has a lot to do with were they are located in the globe and how many resources they have access to. America has access to pretty much anything they want or need… So… Yea… lol
Sazza said,
June 24, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I think your BMI is absolute pants. People who are very very tall generally tend to weigh more even if they are as thin as a bean pole. So BMI is not exactly always accurate.My freind is 6ft 5 and he weighs around 16stone but he is very very thin he has a six pack and is perfectly healthy.So does that make him obese??
But I think its Beth’s life and body and she should do watever she wants with it though i would appreicate her shaving her armpits and using deoderant if she wants to eradicate her clothing items during concerts.
Thank You
Laura said,
June 25, 2009 at 1:42 am
BMI is not perfect, but it’s a good rough guide when it comes to gauging a healthy weight. Yes, a muscular individual should make allowances. But an inactive person who eats junk food constantly and whose fat hangs off them in rolls can probably safely assume that their high BMI isn’t the result of having an athlete’s physique.
I realize that overweight people get tired of being mocked for their weight. But this does not make being obese healthy or normal. Staying dangerously overweight because you don’t want to seem to be agreeing with boors you call you fatso is a perfect example of biting off your nose to spite your face.
Hilda said,
July 15, 2009 at 10:15 am
So what you’re saying is that Beth’s weight is more unhealthy than Keira’s, because Beth weighs too much instead of too little?
Is it worse to eat oneself to death instead of non-eat oneself to death? Skinny people are okay, anorexia is not a problem, they just have to (how did you put it? Oh tight, I remember) “should probably gain a few pounds”. Nothing to worry about.
But fat people, oh they have HUGE problems. That’s not okay, lock them in without any food until they learn. And especially don’t let them show themselves in any kind of media, what a horrific situation if people started thinking that fat people are okay too.
Not really a resonable discussion.
And remember that if you’d said anything similar about for example blacks, you wopuld be a racist.
Think before you speak.